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By Damian B.

I have always been interested in politics and find the subject, the debate, the conflict, the tactics, all very fascinating. I can spend hours each evening, reading articles on the internet, and even submerge myself for days (if given the opportunity).

Since a young kid I have also been interested in insects, bugs, frogs and birds. Comes from growing up on a farm where I was surrounded by them, and got to see the circle of life, and the part that each plays in it.

On a wholly different field, my girlfriend has a strong interest in the arts — particularly pottery, ceramics and sculpture. And she is really good at what she does — with a depth of knowledge in the area which is astounding.A potters wheel is not my thing, but I think her creations are beautiful.

And similarly, she switches off when I want to show her a detailed analysis of the current politics in the Ukraine situation. Just not her thing. We love each other and have a great relationship — but it is fascinating that we, and all of those we know, can have areas of interest that we pursue relentlessly, and others that we just could not care less about.

A classic example of others struggling with this same area are high school graduates, who drift from this subject to that, as they dabble in this job, then that. They wander onto a course, and then a few months later wander off it to try a different one instead. I have met some 30 year olds who have had more than 20 jobs across 5 different industries, and they still don’t quite know what they want to do or focus on.

This is also the case for good friends of mine who spent years on staff or in the Sea Org.  With the game gone, and the purpose and interest lost, several seem to float along on the currents of life, trying to find a job, career or simple path that they can follow that they can get interested in.

I was actually in the same circumstance for quite some time too, and then spotted that there were many areas of life that I had former interest in, that I had dropped or abandoned (for whatever reason). And in each one, if I forced myself to took and take an interest, and look for what I understood (or did not understand), I could regenerate interest in each one of them.

Reminds me of my father, who is elderly and the highlight of his day is reading every single article of each of the local newspapers. This is the main activity and focus of his day. Interesting, huh? (excuse the pun)

Here is what LRH says on the subject — and it has certainly proved true in my application of the data.

(And please don’t react to the word “dilettante” — which has been made a dirty word by the Church of Scientology, and used to invalidate and control people to do as they wish. In this context, LRH is not  talking about ethics, or about what is right or wrong.  This is a lecture where he is talking about Two Way Communication, and leads into how auditing only works when an auditor has interest in the preclear and getting that preclear through the process.)

“Now, let’s take another little factor in this and discover the dilettante. You know what a dilettante is: He’s somebody who starts in – oh, he gives a savage run at this thing, you know, very enthusiastic at first, and he’s going to learn how to be a jet pilot. You know, “Oh-oo, hmm!” Great enthusiasm.

“Of course, dilettante’s an item that comes into the field of the arts mainly, but we will just extend it to all of man’s activities, and we will discover that he goes, oh, boy, is he going to be a jet pilot! Oh man, is he going to be a jet pilot! Yeah, and dhuh-dhuh-dhuh. And then the instructor says, “Ah, well, us boys here, we have to learn to do this and do that. And you have to learn how to … the army regulations. And you have to learn how to make a bed.” And this fellow – he’s not quite as enthusiastic as he was before. And he gets a lesson or two. And then the next thing you know, why, he’s out there at the commandant’s office asking to resign.

“Why is he asking to resign? What is the highest denominator – common denominator – to his activity or to the activities which cause these withdrawals from life, activities, goals and enthusiasms? He has as-ised all the interest in the whole subject of jet pilots. See, he didn’t have very much interest. He couldn’t mock it up. He suddenly had come on to a deposit of interest – he got sold by a poster or something of the sort, you see – and  this interest was very slight. And he himself cannot create interest. And so, he simply goes into something and he as-ises – in other words, erases – all the interest he has on the subject, which leaves him with nothing but some attention which he had given to it before.

“He’s kind of stuck with it and he feels rather soggy about the whole thing. But he’s not interested in it any more.

“All right. Well, he gets out of that. And he decides he’s going to be a piano player. That’s the thing to be – be a piano player. Oh yeah, he’s very interested in being a piano player. And he takes one lesson, two lessons, three lessons, and he meets a couple of other piano players. And the next thing you know, he’s not even interested in the piano anymore. He quits; he’s through. He doesn’t take up any further … Well, he decides, well, he’s not so successful in that particular field. The best thing for him to do is to become something completely out of this world, something he’s tremendously enthusiastic about – he’s going to be a painter.

“And he gets to the point where he learns how to clean a brush and he quits. What’s he quit for? Now, that’s a very important thin to an auditor, because every preclear that’s sitting there in the chair or in the group, and so forth, has quit just like this in various parts of life. He’s quit time after time. And he’s only sitting there because he’s quit.

“He is just as good, actually, as he ever was in seventy-four trillion years, and yet his considerations have turned over so that he quits. The consideration is this: he can no longer create interest;he no longer runs on the interest which he himself generates.

“You see that? He just takes somebody else’s interest or a little bit of interest and he as-ises it or erases it before he gets into anything like hard work.

“Well, believe me, it takes a lot of interest to get you through the task of digging half a mountain away to find some gold, or sawing down a redwood tree. And they didn’t used to have saws when they first cut those things down, you know; they had very bad axes.

“And it takes a lot of interest to keep a fellow at a job all the way through. Interest is not at fault. It isn’t because you have become interested in things and then have been disabused and betrayed so you had to withdraw from them. That is not what is wrong with the preclear. It is simply that he failed to keep on generating interest in what he was doing. There’s an awful lot of people out here that tell you they’re looking for happiness. And a lot of your preclears are going to sit there, and they’re going to sit there, and they’re going to be still looking for happiness. And they’ll ransack their whole banks looking for happiness.

“Well, the clue to happiness is being interested in life. And their happiness is as great as they can create it. And they will not experience happiness from any other quarter than their own generation. That’s all. They’ll get the amount of happiness that they can generate. But this happiness is not itself an emotion. It is a word which states a condition and the anatomy of that condition is interest. Happiness, you could say, is the overcoming of not unknowable obstacles toward a known goal. (Dianetics Book One; definition of happiness.)

“The anatomy back of it is simply this (no more, no less than this): It’s how much interest can he generate, and can he generate enough interest to get him over all those heavy-energy particles which have to be invested along the line. It’s how much interest can he generate himself, how much can he himself keep interested in, in life, that makes him happy. Because happiness is application of self to existence. And that’s all there is to happiness.

“So what happens to this dilettante? He doesn’t create interest anymore, and you will find this individual looking for happiness. Oh, no! He’s looking for happiness. Nobody else’s happiness is going to be of any use to him whatsoever. The only happiness he will ever get is from being able to create his own interest in things. See that?

“Now, a thetan who is in good shape and who’s exteriorized can get some of the darnedest levels of interest. Did you ever have anybody exteriorize and then go prowling around the beach, or something like that, and find a grain of sand and just sit there and look at it? Just as interested! And you say, “What’s this fellow doing? Here he is, a half an hour in this chair and he hasn’t said a thing. And I thought I was working with a comm lag here or something. But I’m not working with a comm lag,something else has occurred here.”And you kind of quietly ask him, “What are you doing?”

“Oh,”he says, “that’s the most interesting thing!”
“What’s the most int…”
“All of these little electrons, you know, they keep going around in this grain of sand and it’s… Oh, it’s fascinating. It’s very,very interesting.”

“There’s nothing wrong with him. That’s the natural state of affairs.

“An individual should be able to get interested in anything.”

LRH Lecture of 6 Oct 1954, Two Way Communication, from the 8th American ACC

3 thoughts on “Generate interest

  1. Sorry, he is talking about people who can’t commit to anything. They do a little of this, a little of that, they don’t really produce anything or accomplish anything, but they work real hard. The person says – there’s nothing really interesting and everything’s boring and not worthwhile and that’s why he can’t work, or produce things. LRH says that the only real interest or focus that a person is going to find is what he makes. If he depends on other people, he’s never going to do something worthwhile. To be fair, the quote does mention auditing as a connected subject. A person who is really exteriorized will have much less trouble making his own interest and therefore being able to persist and accomplish things because he will make his own interest, instead of being a dilettante and flittering around and insisting one has to find ‘inspiration’ and saying ‘it just didn’t inspire/interest me anymore’ again and again and again.

  2. Great quote from LRH. It’s apt that LRH mentions exteriorisation in the context of interest because the physical universe seems to disappear when you’re having fun – you lose track of time, the glue which holds the universe together. You find something interesting, you take your attention off MEST – and suddenly you’re free! How lucky we are that the 7th Dynamic is senior to the 6th.

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