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By Jim Logan

I have come across an HCOB, 18 December 1957, Psychosis, Neurosis, and Psychiatrists, that I think sheds light on things we witness in our day to day living.

“An auditor who does not understand the true character of neurosis and psychosis is likely to find himself trying to understand neurotics and psychotics and psychiatrists and to the degree of that un-understanding could become the effect of these.

“If we examine the definition for Operating Thetan we find his highest capability is knowing and willing cause. This should tell us at once that the definition of neurosis and psychosis would be unknowing and unwilling effect, and this is the actual definition of either.

“Neurosis and psychosis are different only in degree of singleness of effect. A neurotic is the subject of one or more unknown causes to which he is the unwilling effect-but he can still function to some degree, which is to say he can still be cause in other lines. A psychotic is the complete subject of one or more unknown causes to which he is the unwilling effect and any effort on his part to be cause is interfered with by the things to which he is the effect; in other words, a psychotic’s outflow is cut to zero by the inflow.”

“All the aspects and abilities there are, are the aspects and abilities of a thetan. The only thing that can be done with these aspects or abilities is included, at least in this universe, in the formula of cause and effect. Take one ability and add to it the idea of cause and effect of the more simple variety CAUSE, DISTANCE, EFFECT, fix it so it can never be flowed against by anything else and we have a source of neuroses. Now take a being at the effect-point of this flow. If this being is the effect-point of a flow he can never flow back against, we have here what we could call carelessly a neurosis. But there is no other qualification for this neurosis than that it be unwillingly received and unknown. Therefore a known “stuck flow” at a person which he is not unwilling to receive does not cause a neurosis. Now if we make this “stuck flow” unwillingly received, then unknown, and make it so that it bars out all backflows of whatever kind on any subject then we have psychosis.

“As there are no other aspects than those of a thetan, we see at once that all neuroses and psychoses are EXAGGERATED, CONCENTRATED ABILITIES.”

“Let us see a good example of this. “A” is a statesman. He plays polo, has a satisfied wife, collects old cars, can do a good job of work as a carpenter, a fisherman and an ice skater. He reads detective stories and plays good poker. He is working on a plan privately to disentangle the Middle East and assist France.

“One day he is at his club and he is joined by “B.” “B” is a political dilettante. He spends most of his money on maps and treatises about the Middle East. He cannot ride, sing or work and his family life is in ruins. He is obviously a neurotic at best. His ideas are disassociated, impractical but loud. Everyone at the club except “B” knows “B” is a poor risk.

“A,” the sane, versatile man, hears “B,” the neurotic, sounding off about the Middle East and saving France and how only “B” could accomplish this. “A,” knowing “B’s” character, BEGINS TO WONDER IF HE IS CRAZY BECAUSE HE IS INTERESTED IN THE MIDDLE EAST. In such a way, and in any line, the psychotic or neurotic is a sort of mockery of the sane ability.

“Now, as an authority on man and insanity (but not an authority on sanity as is a Scientologist) the psychiatrist, studying insane people runs across “B.” He classifies “B” as a save-the-world type and notes that “B” is fixated on France and the Middle East. Shortly thereafter the psychiatrist is called upon to render a decision about “A.” He looks in his book, finds ” A is trying to do something about France and the Middle East and, of course, classifies “A” as insane.”

In this last bit, I’ve had a bit of fun lately poking at various bloggers and their coterie, as they haul up  Wiki refs and sundry “classifications” of human behaviours, speak them as if they are knowing authorities now that they’ve managed to figure out a Google search, and lay themselves open to comparable “classification” in the Kraepelin/DSM vein.

And finally:

“The auditor should understand the mechanism behind neurosis and psychosis. He should draw it out for himself on a graph, showing cause and effect. He should understand that mechanism because it is the ONLY THING THERE IS TO UNDERSTAND about neurotics and psychotics, for all else they do is gibberish and un-understandable.”*

I recommend a thorough study of the full issue, and the exercise suggested at the end, where one draws out these things graphically so as to gain his own understanding of the phenomena. 

Work out for yourself how an ability of a thetan, in concentrated, exaggerated form, can manifest as “bonko”.  

Find some real-life examples of the stuck flow manifestation. 

Gaining a good grasp of this stuck flow situation will serve you well, even at the highest levels of the Bridge, as well as in isolating and having an Action Definition for a lot of the stuff that goes on around.

*Please also read in the context of CS Series 22, Psychosis, and align this material with that reference.  Again, with the urging to “find out for yourself”, i.e. to look and examine and see if this data is real to you,  else it sits on “automatic” as some sort of authority and that ain’t Scientology.

14 thoughts on “Unwilling effect

  1. Excellent reference Jim! It explains a lot. I have met apparently capable people in the past, (especially in their own mind), but ultimately only to produce overt products. Great find!

  2. Thanks for posting this Jimbo excellent ref 😉

    Funny you should mention those ‘bloggers”.

    I remember a couple who had a hard on for the Sociopath Next Door which was supposedly the tech Ron missed etc ad nauseous infinitum whatever…

    And let’s not forget how before that the Stockholm Syndrome explained everything that is if it wasn’t explained by the Milgram Experiment and if you disagree you must be a koolaid gusslin’ sufferer of cognitive dissonance 😉

    • I think some of these labels/judgmentalisticalisms must have come from flipping open a DSM and with eyes closed pointing at a page and picking a random “disorder”. Wow, that’s reaaaaaally some kind of sophisticated technology right there.

      • Sorta like the Stages of Development theories that abound, like Freud’s with the “anal retentive” stage – i.e., full of poop.

      • Ah Yes!

        The the good ol’ Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Revisions I, II, or III guaranteed to give one hours of amusement.

        I used to read it just for fun when I was auditing staff at CCHR Int 😉

        They as in the APA make almost as many revisions as RTRC under RTC does but at least they don’t have to work at making their Tech unworkable 🙂

  3. In some reference Ron mentioned that the lowest confront of a thetan is on evil. I had wondered a while why that is the case until I realized that “evil” has the highest degree of non-similarity to ARC. Therefore, trying to duplicate “evil” can only bring about “non-understanding”. Voila!

  4. Excellent reference, Jim. Lots to work on here, aligning forces of true cause and effect versus nuttiness. I’m also given to compare to the much later reference, I believe it is entitled, “Conceptual Understanding” with it’s little graphic of concepts transferring into action/work, or not.

  5. Wonderful stuff there Bud. I have been wondering about something outright bizarre going on in the field. I could not put my finger on the destructive nature of it until reading this post. I hesitate to mention any names, but his initials are Marty Rathbun. 30 years of all CAUSE (or else) makes Johnny a very interesting case in point. PS: Drop me an email – we have been rocking the town and you have an open invitation to sit in anywhere any concert.

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